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I guess those outright morons hacking on lilo got ...

2006-09-16T17:32:00.000-05:00

I guess those outright morons hacking on lilo got something to think about now - I mean with the accident and all.

If I am to say my opinion then I'd say that exploits and such does happen. Governments have been cracked too you know, and,

Rest in peace, Rob "lilo" Levin

I don't know why some people are using this as an ...

2006-06-27T16:49:00.000-05:00

I don't know why some people are using this as an excuse to have a go at lilo. I'm in one of the same channels on freenode as he is and I've always found him a really nice guy. He was great when I had problems with a rather objectionable user and although lilo must be really busy and in lots of channels, he's got time to talk to everyone.

Before the press conference #freenode-moderated wa...

2006-06-26T14:04:00.000-05:00

Before the press conference #freenode-moderated was unmoderated and many people were there discussing the attack. One of the points someone made in response to the slashdot story that "ratbert" is not, in fact, an attacker, but is an alternate nickname for lilo. That would imply that lilo's account was indeed hacked.

This is just what I heard, I can't recall by who, but you can independently verify it on freenode if you wish.

i am telling you it was not GNAA you dumbass. GNAA...

2006-06-26T11:42:00.000-05:00

i am telling you it was not GNAA you dumbass. GNAA does nothing but idle on their stupid irc server, which has been taken over too. ask any current member about the april 1st takeover.

$25,000in the US is way below poverty and is not a...

2006-06-26T09:41:00.000-05:00

$25,000

in the US is way below poverty and is not alot of money, maybe he should "hire" or get in good with someone who knows security

501c3's are required by the IRS to post their retu...

2006-06-26T08:52:00.000-05:00

501c3's are required by the IRS to post their returns, if you want to know where the $25k/yr went last year...STFW and stop complaining. Your obviously fanboy's of the network if you know enough to complain. But just like every other fanboy you'd rather bitch about a non-existant problem (accountability) than do a little research.

Hmmm... before all hell broke loose, something wei...

2006-06-26T04:15:00.000-05:00

Hmmm... before all hell broke loose, something weird happened:

Jun 25 03:32:57 * lilo has quit (Killed by Astinus (Please do not use tor as an abuse medium for GNAA activities.))
Jun 25 03:33:39 * lilo (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin) has joined #mythtv-users
Jun 25 03:33:49 Dagmar Just a reminder: No one ever said getting MythTV running wouldn't entail learning a lot about how it's various parts actually work
Jun 25 03:33:56 Dagmar Learning is good for you.
Jun 25 03:35:55 smokey actually, i found this in the backend log... select timeout - ivtv driver has stopped responding
Jun 25 03:36:11 Dagmar wait aminute
Jun 25 03:36:15 Dagmar Did I read that corrrectly?
Jun 25 03:36:33 smokey yeah, i cut and pasted it
Jun 25 03:36:34 * bilbravo (n=bilbravo@pool-70-22-59-198.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users
Jun 25 03:36:35 Dagmar ... SignOff lilo: #mythtv-users (Killed by Astinus (Please do not use tor as an abuse medium for GNAA activities.))
Jun 25 03:36:49 Dagmar smokey: I was referring to lilo's quit message.
Jun 25 03:37:26 Dagmar Astinus is in for it now. :)
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Jun 25 04:13:33 lilo (whoops, Astinus mistabbed 8)
Jun 25 04:13:44 Dagmar hehe
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Jun 25 04:43:49 * lilo has quit (Killed by ratbert (die ))

Well, I'm an chanop on all of the Wikipedia channe...

2006-06-25T23:17:00.000-05:00

Well, I'm an chanop on all of the Wikipedia channels, you can damn well bet I'm changing passwords, so whatever. Rob was really good about it, I had him on privmsg for pa fair bit of it and he was great. Just amazingly great

My take on this?lilo's a noob. He's had passwords...

2006-06-25T23:02:00.001-05:00

My take on this?

lilo's a noob. He's had passwords social-engineered and now cracked out of his network enough times that he should probably read up on security (and verify user identities before he hands out O:lines).

On the other hand, $25000+disability for a couple isn't much (why do you think they live in a trailer?), so I don't know what people are bitching about lilo getting paid.

Generally I'm sure lilo's an okay guy, but he should have learned a bit more before running one of the world's largest IRC networks.

Also...people shouldn't take this so seriously. It's IRC. If you make your entire living (or even most of it) from IRC (with IRC being a crucial part of your living) you probably need to find something better to do.

I personally find the whole thing pretty funny. This is why I love EFnet - stupid stuff can happen all the time and nobody cares, nothing gets posted to Digg or Slashdot, nobody gets too up-in-arms, and it's good clean e-fun all around.

love the emphasis on terror. so i guess this guy i...

2006-06-25T22:30:00.000-05:00

love the emphasis on terror. so i guess this guy is a TERRAHRIST! wont anyone think of the IRC CHILDREN?!?!?!

wow talk about having a blog that got super succes...

2006-06-25T21:02:00.000-05:00

wow talk about having a blog that got super successful in like 10 minutes

Look at the type of jerks that Rob Levin is forced...

2006-06-25T20:32:00.000-05:00

Look at the type of jerks that Rob Levin is forced to deal with on a daily basis. It's a miracle that he continues to put in the time and effort. Thank you, Rob.

wow $25,000/yr is nice for a man on disability wit...

2006-06-25T20:02:00.000-05:00

wow $25,000/yr is nice for a man on disability with his wife who both live in a trailer in houston. lilo has a sweet life.

Story made digg.

2006-06-25T19:56:00.000-05:00

Story made digg.

Seems to be alot of drama for an IRC server.

2006-06-25T19:20:00.000-05:00

Seems to be alot of drama for an IRC server.

Lilo has the "give me a freeride" gene: [115121215...

2006-06-25T17:35:00.000-05:00

Lilo has the "give me a freeride" gene:
[1151212158] -(01:09:18)- [freenode] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global Notice] Once again I want to take the opportunity to mention that
freenode could use more of its own hardware resources and more server hosting resources. If you'd like to help, please email staff@pdpc.us ....
Thanks.

As if the $25,000 that he made last year wasn't enough...he is just wants money ;P

and you wonder why #debian left freenode.

2006-06-25T14:47:00.000-05:00

and you wonder why #debian left freenode.

No need to /msg nickserv btw, you can also use /qu...

2006-06-25T13:31:00.000-05:00

No need to /msg nickserv btw, you can also use /quote nickserv which uses the ircd's NICKSERV command feature, which'll tell you if services are down instead of sending the message to a user using the nickserv name.

On a network I help running (with a modified bahamut) opers are only allowed under SSL, which may help against network sniffing (but definitely can't do anything against social engineering or keyboard codes logging, obviously).

As for using an HMAC (i.e. HMAC-SHA-160) or other such system to register with services to avoid having passwords sent in plain text over the network, this would unfortunately require a client modification. However, this would be trivial to implement if everyone agreed to modify their client to support the new command and IRCd software patched.

well from what i read from that rapidshare link, l...

2006-06-25T13:15:00.000-05:00

well from what i read from that rapidshare link, lilo gets paid twice. thats strange, anyone care to comment?

Yeah, some accounting from FreeNode would be very ...

2006-06-25T12:17:00.000-05:00

Yeah, some accounting from FreeNode would be very interesting! I've ran quie a few IRC servers over the years, and the amount of funding they get covers plenty more than just hte traffic!

Many of these online communities, such as YTMND an...

2006-06-25T12:00:00.000-05:00

Many of these online communities, such as YTMND and Freenode, ask for "donations". Where is this money going? Is it going into the pocket of the guy who runs everything? I demand accountability from online sites that demand donations. Is this money buying lilo free pizzas every night and vacations to europe for Max Goldberg of YTMND?

The problem is that people know you by your nick s...

2006-06-25T11:49:00.000-05:00

The problem is that people know you by your nick so getting a new one is fine if no one knew you. I have ops in quite a few channels and I'm going to be watching my account closely and as soon as the staff confirm things have been cleaned up I will be changing my password. I'm still not too found of the sending of them to nickserv in plaintext anyway. :(

The above mentioned op.

Both of these annonymous comments show their menta...

2006-06-25T11:32:00.000-05:00

Both of these annonymous comments show their mentality and maturity level. Good job guys.

My question is this: what security threat does this really pose? If your nickserv password is stolen, then you just register a new nick. If you use the same password on freenode that you use for other services, like email and blogging, then you better change your password.

The actions of this guy don't seem to be permament, although he may have done some temporary damage at the time. Big news though, no doubt.

Well it made slashdot.http://it.slashdot.org/artic...

2006-06-25T11:30:00.000-05:00

Well it made slashdot.
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/25/1440236

I'd have renamed him grub before dropping the k-li...

2006-06-25T04:31:00.000-05:00

I'd have renamed him grub before dropping the k-line.